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Offline naDinMN

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Do you still use Secondary?
« on: January 13, 2021, 01:43:20 PM »
I probably haven't done a secondary fermentation for six years. That is unless I have a specific reason, like adding new fermentables (fruit, etc.) or lagering.

I primary until the beer reaches the clarity I like and I cold crash, with or without clarification.

I skip secondary for four reasons.

1) It exposes the beer to oxygen.
2) More yeast clean up more off flavors. IMO
3) I'm lazy. Maybe not lazy, but I like to make things easier on myself. Work smarter, not harder.
4) I started doing it after noticing multiple micro brewers skipping it and just going from Primary to Cold Crashing.

Not why I do it, but I did find this blog.
https://beerandbrewing.com/homebrewing-dogma-try-then-trust/


Anyway... Just curious what others are doing or not doing. What are your thoughts and reasons why for doing what you do?

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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 02:53:11 PM »
No. No. and Never.
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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 03:02:32 PM »
No. No. and Never.

Ditto.  I learned a lot from a professional brewer. He advised that there wasn't any reason for me to use a secondary based on my process and the beers I brew. I never do fruit or sour beers and will condition and age beers in kegs if that is was I want for the beer.

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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 03:51:36 PM »
Can't remember the last time. On the rare occasion that I lager, it's done in the serving keg.
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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2021, 05:38:32 AM »
Well, now I feel like the odd man out. I have been using secondary for 25 years. Started when I wanted to make sure that my bottles didn't have a layer of spooge on the bottom. But wait, maybe that is the difference. Of you all that don't use secondary, how many keg and how many bottle? That may be the difference.
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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 02:17:11 PM »
Well, now I feel like the odd man out. I have been using secondary for 25 years. Started when I wanted to make sure that my bottles didn't have a layer of spooge on the bottom. But wait, maybe that is the difference. Of you all that don't use secondary, how many keg and how many bottle? That may be the difference.

Both. Keg or bottle. I skip it. Been brewing for 14 years and stopped at least 6 years ago.

Here is the question now - Those nevers, how long have you been brewer?

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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2021, 02:31:36 PM »
@Billy Brew: I both keg and bottle and have no issues with excessive sediment.

@naDinMN I have been brewing for over 25 years and stopped using the secondary stage about the time I built my first keezer almost 10 years ago.
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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2021, 10:41:01 PM »
I think the difference is the yeast. In the old days the yeast you could get was not as healthy and if your beer sat on dead yeast for very long it would get off-flavors from autolysis. These days we get better and healthier yeast, so the danger of getting off-flavors from autolysis is very small compared to the risk of oxidation or contamination or just the complication of racking to secondary.

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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 06:37:55 AM »
Another no for you. Sold all my smaller fermenters except one I use for sour aging. The rest of the secondary functions I just do in a keg or age lagers in primary for 3 weeks before transferring to a keg.

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Kegged: Bavarian Weissbier, N. English brown, Roggenbier

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Re: Do you still use Secondary?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 08:29:51 AM »
To answer the question posed "how long have I been brewing" December 1993 . I know this because my lovely wife got me started with a Mr. Beer the year they came out, for Christmas.
Used it twice, and realized there just had to be a better way.

I think she has regretted that choice every brew day since  ;)
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