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Offline JVBru

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New Brewer, This is a Neipa recipe... Suggestions Please
« on: October 31, 2019, 09:42:26 AM »
Hey everyone,

So I am quite new to brewing, I have done one so far which..well came out drinkable, very strong and quite string in taste too...at least it wasn't wine! haha !! :o

So my next brew I want to try a Neipa style, I have created a recipe but would love if anyone had some pointers/ suggestions etc.
I am using a 3 vessel system.

Any help will be hugely appreciated!

Thanks,

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 33.51 L
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 30.21 L
Final Bottling Vol: 24.00 L
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage
Date: 19/10/19
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Equipment: My Equipment
Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 83.5 %
Taste Rating: 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients
Amt   Name   Type   #   %/IBU   Volume
5.17 kg   Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.7 EBC)   Grain   1   82.7 %   3.37 L
1.08 kg   Oats, Flaked (3.0 EBC)           Grain   2   17.3 %   0.70 L
14.00 g   African Queen       [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min   Hop   3   14.3 IBUs   -
10.00 g   Southern Promise [11.20 %] -  Boil 30.0 min   Hop   4   7.7 IBUs   -
25.00 g   Amarillo [6.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min   Hop   5   2.7 IBUs   -
25.00 g   Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min   Hop   6   2.5 IBUs   -
25.00 g   Citra [12.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min   Hop   7   5.7 IBUs   -
25.00 g   Comet [10.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min   Hop   8   4.8 IBUs   -
25.00 g   Fuggle [4.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min   Hop   9   2.0 IBUs   -
2.0 pkg   Vermont Ale (Yeast Bay #-)   Yeast   10   -   -
Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color

Est Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.1 %
Bitterness: 39.7 IBUs
Est Color: 8.6 EBC
Measured Original Gravity: 1.056 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.3 %
Calories: 531.7 kcal/l
Mash Profile
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Sparge Water: 23.47 L
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE
Est Mash PH: 5.69
Measured Mash PH: 5.20
Total Grain Weight: 6.25 kg
Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Tun Temperature: 22.2 C
Target Mash PH: 5.20
Mash Acid Addition: None
Sparge Acid Addition: None
Mash Steps
Name   Description   Step Temperature   Step Time
Mash In   Add 16.32 L of water at 76.8 C   68.9 C   45 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (6.70L, 16.76L) of 75.6 C water
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage
Carbonation Type: Bottle
Pressure/Weight: 150.80 g
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 21.1 C
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage
Fermenter:
Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Carbonation Est: Bottle with 150.80 g Corn Sugar
Carbonation (from Meas Vol): Bottle with 150.80 g Corn Sugar
Age for: 30.00 days
Storage Temperature: 18.3 C

Offline GigaFemto

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Re: New Brewer, This is a Neipa recipe... Suggestions Please
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2019, 11:39:51 AM »
Grain bill and yeast look OK. I'm not familiar with the first two hops, but I don't think that Comet and Fuggle really fit. NEIPAs generally use hops that are fruity, not floral or herbal or woody. Cascade may be OK, Amarillo and Citra are definitely good. Perhaps just stick with those. Also, consider some "whirlpool" hop additions after the boil, when the temperature has dropped to 75 C or so. That will extract the hop flavor and aroma without getting any bitterness at all. The 5 minute boil will still be getting some bitterness from the hops and will be boiling off some of the aromatic oils. Changing to (or adding) post-boil additions will preserve the aroma without generating any bitterness.

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Re: New Brewer, This is a Neipa recipe... Suggestions Please
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2019, 11:48:07 AM »
Quite ambitious for your second brew. 

The aspect of a NEIPA which makes it stand out is a high prominence of hop flavors produced from high levels of hops in the whirlpool/hop stand and dry hopping.  Check a few recipes from some on-line sources (BeerSmith recipe web site, HomeBrewTalk recipe archives, AHA recipes, etc) and see how people are putting together their recipes, what steps they are doing and how much hop material they are using at what stage of the brewing/fermenting.

Your hop choices are pretty good until you get to the Fuggles.  you have a great combination of fruity, citrus, grapefruit, orange hops.  Then you have Fuggles, which fits none of those descriptors.  The earthy, mint, grassy, and floral notes.  Definitely a clash with the other hops you have chosen.

Your malt bill is nice and simple, which is very typical of an NEIPA.  I would recommend if you are going to bottle this that you change your flaked oats to malted oats.  They will not oxidize as fast as the flaked oats are prone to do.  Since this is the Achilles heal of this style (quickly oxidizes and turns off-color and off-flavor), plan on drinking it fast and doing everything you can to minimize oxygen pick-up after fermentation.

Recycle your grains, feed them to a goat!