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Offline Roosterbrews

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Dry Irish Stout
« on: December 05, 2014, 08:30:11 AM »
Hi Brewer's, I am fairly new to all grain brewing with only 3 brews under my belt so far. I am thinking about brewing BeerSmith Dry Irish Stout but I have a few Questions to ask before I start. Firstly I live in the UK and my local Home Brew shop only keeps Safale yeast's so can I substitute Wyeast Lab Irish Ale 1084 yeast  for Safale S- 04 English Ale yeast and still get a good result, I bottle my beer so it will be bottle conditioned?
 Also I brew in small Quantities to end up with 16 x 500mls bottles so can I mash out by just raising the mash temp without adding  extra  water? or may be not mash out at all. Thanks Guys any help is appreciated.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 12:00:50 PM by Roosterbrews »

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Re: Dry Irish Stout
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 01:08:31 PM »
Wyeast 1084 is a good choice. The last Dry Stout I did I used White Labs WLP004 Irish Ale. I think they are pretty much interchangeable.
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Re: Dry Irish Stout
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 05:24:16 PM »
You can use safale S-04.  It will turn out fine. I like the S-04, it flocculates out nice and tight on the bottle bottoms when you bottle condition.
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Re: Dry Irish Stout
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2014, 08:29:10 PM »
You can't go wrong with Safale S-04. I've used it many times. It's an excellent yeast and should be perfect for your stout. It was originally a Whitbread strain and the same as Wyeast 1099. My personal favorite, White labs WLP007, is a different Whitbread strain and attenuates more to produce a dryer beer.

It was a sad day when Whitbread stopped brewing after 260 years. My favorite beer of theirs was Mackeson. My father used to drink a bottle every day with his dinner. InBev still sell cans filled with a thin, metalic tasting black liquid they call Mackeson but it's nothing like the original so I never buy it. I have great memories of Whitbread because I left school at 15, moved to London and started drinking in a pub at the end of my street that served Trophy Bitter at 17p a pint (yes, I'm that old). A lot of pubs are closing nowadays which is sad but hardly suprising. I went into a small pub in Cheltenham last year where they wanted £4.99 for a pint of ordinary draught IPA. I told the barman to shove it up his arse and walked out. A lot of people must have done the same because it's now a pizza restaraunt.

Anyway, getting back to the subject, I don't bother doing a mash out unless I've got a thick mash or a recipe that includes more than 15% rye or 25% wheat or oats. It stops all enzyme action and makes the grain bed more fluid by raising the temperature. It's a bit like heating up oil to make it thinner and easier to pour.

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