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Title: Beersmith 3
Post by: terragady on November 24, 2017, 03:16:48 AM
Hi are there any plans for bs3? Or you will just upgrade version 2 for now? Will we require new license for new version?
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Ck27 on November 24, 2017, 10:26:52 AM
Hi are there any plans for bs3? Or you will just upgrade version 2 for now? Will we require new license for new version?

Probably not
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Oginme on November 24, 2017, 11:21:51 AM
Generally, Brad has expressed the policy that program fixes, minor changes and additions would be an extension of the 2.x family and upgrades would be available for free.  Large additions, rewrites and major GUI improvements would be the start of a 3.x version and would require the repurchasing of the software license.

Brad has made some comments about a rewrite, but I don't know the time schedule yet.  I would guess that it would be a while if there are major changes which would require significant beta testing before it was released.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Ck27 on November 24, 2017, 12:44:12 PM
Generally, Brad has expressed the policy that program fixes, minor changes and additions would be an extension of the 2.x family and upgrades would be available for free.  Large additions, rewrites and major GUI improvements would be the start of a 3.x version and would require the repurchasing of the software license.

Brad has made some comments about a rewrite, but I don't know the time schedule yet.  I would guess that it would be a while if there are major changes which would require significant beta testing before it was released.

I never support companies that don't give me free access to a major release if I pay say for example $ 200 for the prior version it's a joke.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: KellerBrauer on November 29, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
I recall an email correspondence I had with Brad a couple years ago and if I understood what he was saying, it sounded like he was leaning toward the possibility of a web based application.  Personally, I would prefer a personal machine based system.  But if that?s the direction this software goes, so be it. 

This software has come a long way just in the couple years I?ve been using it.  I can?t imagine how some of the long-time users must feel.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Baron Von MunchKrausen on November 29, 2017, 02:50:23 PM
This software has come a long way just in the couple years I?ve been using it.  I can?t imagine how some of the long-time users must feel.

Back in the day I casually tinkered with some other brewing software that didn't come close to Beersmith.
I confess I don't even use many of the features of BS, but once you get your profiles and BH efficiency dialed in, there's no comparison. I can't imagine using anything else.
In my perfect world, it would be nice to have BS integrated with Bru'n water but I don't see that as a practical or viable option. I guess I can live with a separate spreadsheet of water management.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Oginme on November 29, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
Baron,

I agree.  It's almost a ho-hum brewing day around here.  I almost wish sometimes for missing a volume or gravity readings to bring some excitement back in at times.

Seriously though, it is the best $21 spent on brewing.  If Brad announces a V3.x coming out tomorrow, I'd line up for it. 
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: uSlackr on December 26, 2017, 01:48:04 PM

I never support companies that don't give me free access to a major release if I pay say for example $ 200 for the prior version it's a joke.

First, BeerSmith costs ~$20, so...

Second, when you pay $200 they often charge 10%/yr for "support"

Brad's a small business - I'll pay for any major upgrades.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Ck27 on December 26, 2017, 08:05:52 PM

I never support companies that don't give me free access to a major release if I pay say for example $ 200 for the prior version it's a joke.

First, BeerSmith costs ~$20, so...

Second, when you pay $200 they often charge 10%/yr for "support"

Brad's a small business - I'll pay for any major upgrades.

Still i love the software, but i dont think i would pay for it again if i had to, i would just use the old version but thats just me, Brads been helpful, very much so, and because of that i can safely say beersmith is the best software for brewing.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: BOB357 on December 26, 2017, 10:35:10 PM

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Still i love the software, but i dont think i would pay for it again if i had to, i would just use the old version but thats just me, Brads been helpful, very much so, and because of that i can safely say beersmith is the best software for brewing.
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Continuing to use an earlier version is an alternative. Personally, if the cost of upgrading to a newer version was even close to what BS2 cost, I wouldn't bat an eye before purchasing. My wife and I live on social security, so we are very value conscience. BeerSmith has saved me what it cost many times over.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Ck27 on December 27, 2017, 12:32:21 AM


Still i love the software, but i dont think i would pay for it again if i had to, i would just use the old version but thats just me, Brads been helpful, very much so, and because of that i can safely say beersmith is the best software for brewing.
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Continuing to use an earlier version is an alternative. Personally, if the cost of upgrading to a newer version was even close to what BS2 cost, I wouldn't bat an eye before purchasing. My wife and I live on social security, so we are very value conscience. BeerSmith has saved me what it cost many times over.
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Its saved me from getting too much grains like 200000000 times over.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Toy4Rick on January 28, 2018, 08:17:36 AM
Hey Brad,

Anything to wet our whistle re: Features, Functionality or version upgrades?

Thirsty supporters would love to hear from you

Thanks, Rick
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Toy4Rick on April 24, 2018, 07:21:52 PM
So are we giving up on the next version

I posted this 3 months ago and not a single reply since

Hey Brad...  Is this thing on...can you hear me now... :-\

Rick
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: BeerSmith on May 03, 2018, 07:49:35 PM
Yes I've been working on a the next release.  I just started beta testing with a limited set of testers so it does exist. 

I'll release the details before Homebrewcon in June, but I think most people will be happy with the upcoming changes.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: Brorsboel Bryghus on May 31, 2018, 10:54:00 AM
An online / browser version was mentioned above. That would be so nice. Then I wouldnt have to buy a new pc, but could use my chromebook with a full version? Wow, would love it, and then Id buy a Beersmith-version.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: lmrafael on May 31, 2018, 05:04:57 PM
Yes I've been working on a the next release.  I just started beta testing with a limited set of testers so it does exist. 

I'll release the details before Homebrewcon in June, but I think most people will be happy with the upcoming changes.

Fingers crossed for Homebrewcon!

I was managing to use only the Android version. The need for better usage made me download the PC version trial. Loved it. Am going to buy it. Question: should I wait for the BS 3? Or can I buy it now, and get the update (or need to pay only the difference, if the new version has a higher price range)?

Thanks for the marvelous work!!
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: BeerSmith on June 01, 2018, 09:55:00 AM
Announcement coming on the blog today - preorder opens in the next few days...
   http://beersmith.com/blog

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: 4krazyks on June 04, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
Cool deal but the Paypal part was a royal PITA.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: DownstairsBrewing on June 05, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
I just went to upgrade my trial version, and saw the Beersmith 3 notice.  I am not particularly stuck to the idea of using Beersmith 2 - should I just preorder Beersmith 3 and wait a couple of weeks?
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: brewfun on June 06, 2018, 10:41:45 AM
I just went to upgrade my trial version, and saw the Beersmith 3 notice.  I am not particularly stuck to the idea of using Beersmith 2 - should I just preorder Beersmith 3 and wait a couple of weeks?

It looks like you can activate V2 and expect an upgrade when it's released.

From the blog:

Recent BeerSmith 2 Purchasers: If you bought BeerSmith 2 after 15 October 2017 you can use this link https://beersmithrecipes.com/upgrade2 (https://beersmithrecipes.com/upgrade2) to get a free 12 month Gold membership. Log in and enter your activation key (from Help->Activate in BeerSmith 2) and the system will apply install your BeerSmith 3 license in your account.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: DownstairsBrewing on June 06, 2018, 06:38:42 PM
I just went to upgrade my trial version, and saw the Beersmith 3 notice.  I am not particularly stuck to the idea of using Beersmith 2 - should I just preorder Beersmith 3 and wait a couple of weeks?

It looks like you can activate V2 and expect an upgrade when it's released.

From the blog:

Recent BeerSmith 2 Purchasers: If you bought BeerSmith 2 after 15 October 2017 you can use this link https://beersmithrecipes.com/upgrade2 (https://beersmithrecipes.com/upgrade2) to get a free 12 month Gold membership. Log in and enter your activation key (from Help->Activate in BeerSmith 2) and the system will apply install your BeerSmith 3 license in your account.

That is for the subscription model though - wasn't really what I had in mind.  I was planning on just buying it.
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: terragady on June 20, 2018, 05:47:40 PM
so we who bought BS2 recently were quite f***ed
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: BeerSmith on June 20, 2018, 06:53:04 PM
Cool deal but the Paypal part was a royal PITA.

There is a non-paypal option at the bottom of the order page now - http://beersmith.com/order

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: BeerSmith on June 20, 2018, 06:54:58 PM
If you purchased very recently and do not want a gold upgrade drop me an email at beersmith@beersmith.com and I will consider other options on a case-by-case basis.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 3
Post by: terragady on June 21, 2018, 07:31:29 AM
If you purchased very recently and do not want a gold upgrade drop me an email at beersmith@beersmith.com and I will consider other options on a case-by-case basis.

Brad

Sounds good, i dropped you an email