went to a local winery. the vintar said you can get partial carbonation without pressure. he said that he notices a lot of carbonization in his primaries, before outgassing and adding stabilizers. he suggested twisting the carboy on a flat surface and twisting back a forth quickly. so i did this for three days and no more outgassing. the first few times it had massive bubbles coming up through the airlock. i tasted , no more carbonation feel, and no tiny bubbles coming up to the surface. i am bottling today. i appreciate your time in responding. happy brewing!