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doobliebop said,
in May 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

What about better bottles? I get worried about breaking my glass carboys after having read a few horror stories about them. I currently ferment in 6.5 gallon carboys and love them, but I’m always nervous about them breaking. I have been thinking of moving to better bottles… would have liked to hear your take on them.

cearum said,
in May 30th, 2010 at 5:10 am

What about the Better Bottle? The plastic carboy takes most things you have in the glass carboy; then it removes the ability for it to easily break and adds the con of the scratching. They are so easy to move as they are tons lighter but they can flex in and out creating a suction. That suction can suck in whatever is in the airlock so I find it best to attach it once it’s in place.

BMan1113VR said,
in May 30th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

I would like to hear a more detailed comparison between glass and plastic (better bottle) carboys.

admin said,
in May 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm

All,
Yes I should have mentioned the “better bottle” plastic carboys. These are a nice compromise as they are not as heavy or breakable as glass, but have a carboy shape and neck so you don’t need to worry about a bad seal.

They are made from a low permeability food grade plastic, so the risk of oxidization is low. My only long term concern would be that you will need a large bottle brush to clean them which may result in some minor scratching over time – so eventually you may need to replace them.

This is not a major negative, however, as the glass ones tend to break if you use them long enough – so its probably a wash overall.

Overall – I think they are a nice compromise between the plastic bucket and glass carboy.

dcHokie said,
in June 1st, 2010 at 7:35 am

I use all 3, but generally prefer glass carboys.

The BBs are great outside of being more difficult to clean. As cearum mentioned, once they are full you need to remove the airlock and cover the mouth (I use sanitized foil) to prevent that ‘flex suck’ when moving them.

cearum said,
in June 1st, 2010 at 5:40 pm

They tell you to not use a brush on the better bottles. They have a hydrophobic coating that allows them to easily shed most crud on them with a good soak. I find that if I clean it relatively quick it doesn’t become a problem (Especially with a good sprayer).

in June 1st, 2010 at 6:40 pm

Justin – thanks for clarifying on the brush issue. I confess, I don’t actually own a “better bottle”, so I was going off my experience with glass bottles. As you can see, there are a number of better bottle fans here though. — Brad

bobbytuck said,
in June 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm

A brush with Better Bottles? Huh?

That’s a *big* no-no.

All you need to do is soak it overnight with Oxyclean Free, and it’s completely clean. You never *touch* the inside much less brush it.

Then during brewday, just fill it with StarSan, let it sit while you’re mashing and boiling — and bingo — it’s ready to go.

Completely low-impact, very hands-off, and — most important — safe!

bobbytuck said,
in June 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

BTW — when I say “fill it StarSan” I mean fill it with your StarSan solution — 1oz. in 5 gallons — give it a big shake to get the foam going — and you’re set.

DelawareBrewer said,
in June 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm

I put a wash cloth in my Better Bottle and swirl away. Just enough scrubbing action to make cleaning an easy job.

DVDaniels said,
in June 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm

I am also a big fan of the better bottle. I agree totally with the previous poster that said soak overnight with oxyclean. I have never had to scrub them.

While I wished they had a 6.5 to 7 gallon version of the better bottle I have been able to squeeze 5.5 gallons with a good blowoff tube in the 6 gallon version.

in June 3rd, 2010 at 2:52 pm

Nice comparison. I currently use a plastic fermenter for my primary, and a glass carboy for the secondary. I find the ease of cleaning for the plastic is really nice for that first really active week of fermentation, but then the impermeability of the glass carboy is nice for really aging the beer, and the secondary usually doesn’t get too gunky.

stadelman said,
in June 4th, 2010 at 6:27 am

Glass carboys would be perfect if it weren’t for the extreme danger that comes along with them.

I’ll never forget the site of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy shattering on the carpet. Followed quickly by blood gushing from my feet.

Other than that, they’re great.

Jorge said,
in June 7th, 2010 at 6:33 am

I don’t have much experience with better bottles… I use a plastic fermenter and have a glass carboy for my secondary.

The plastic fermenter needs to be washed immediately after each use. I use household bleach and that gets rid of all odors and ready for the next batch…

I don’t move my glass carboy too far, but it is a little dangerous to carry 5 gallons of brew in a glass carboy…

Ben said,
in June 8th, 2010 at 1:28 am

I have been using plastic as a primary for years with no problems. Oxi-clean works great for cleaning them.

Secondary, I use the glass.

Paul said,
in June 16th, 2010 at 8:22 am

I use both in my brewing and actually start with the plastic bucket before moving on to the glass carboy for secondary fermentation. Reason being, I think it is much easier to move the wort into the plastic bucket versus using the siphon and putting it into the glass carboy. I think you are just asking to move too much sediment into the glass carboy if you are not careful.

dfwatsoncrick said,
in June 17th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

I have used both for many of the reasons stated above. I wanted to add that about three years ago, I received two Cornelius kegs set up for secondary fermentation. While I have only thought of ways to use them for primary fermentation, they work great as a secondary.
I imagine trub and other excesses of primary fermentation would cause problems, I have been considering ways to use an old SS keg (that had the top cut off) as a primary or secondary. An acrylic lid could probably be fabricated to allow visualization as well as a seal with the proper gasket.
Regardless, lets not forget SS for use in primary or secondary fermentation.

Thomas said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I used to use glass, until I turned into one of those horror stories you read about.

Now I use my 5 gal corny kegs as both primary and secondary. Using CO2 rather than having to siphon is a big plus, and you don’t have to worry about sunlight or oxidation.

in July 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

Along the lines of this subject, it would be interesting to hear if there is any evidence or anything on the likes of what drinking out of plastic or glass has to do with the taste and flavor of the beer.

I would assume not much though, but if you’re a slower drinker that wants to make the beer linger and last through the night…perhaps there might be….

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