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in January 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am

I regularly use Irish Moss or Whirlfloc Tablets. I’ve also used gelatin (which works very well!). But beyond that, the thought of fish bladders, and such seems a bit extreme.

One recommendation though, if you choose to use fining agents in the secondary, best results are achieved if you chill the beer down to 35 degrees F before adding the finings. This way, any chill haze proteins are also dropped out of suspension, resulting in cleaner beer.

For clearing beer naturally though, I suggest patience and low temperatures.

Skyflyer said,
in January 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Just curious about the finings in the secondary.
How does one put it in the carboy?
Just pour it in? And do you stir it up and how? By shaking the carboy around in circles or using some long stick?
Thanks,
Bob

in January 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Just pour it in gently along the side of the carboy. You can stir it with a sterilized stick/wand. I usually use my siphon wand.

Jim V said,
in January 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

I’m going to use gelatin for the first time on an American Blonde Ale – thanks for the info!

Jim

Skyflyer said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am

Can I just use a dissolved Whirlfloc table? I don’t have anything else right now. I will go get some gelatin later and try that.
I assume you a trying NOT to stir up the bottom settlement?
Thanks …

in January 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

You can use whirlfloc at the end of the boil, but it will not work as a fining agent after fermentation. I would recommend a quick trip to the grocery store where you can find unflavored gelatin which will work much better.

Skyflyer said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

Thanks Brad.
I appreciate you sitting by the computer waiting for my questions!!
I’ll get the gelatin.
How long the in the secondary?
One day, two, a week?
I jsut finished my AG. Went good. I’ll have some questions for the forum. Mash temp issues …
Thanks again …
Bo

in January 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

Add the gelatin 3-5 days before bottling while in the secondary and it should come out great. Happy brewing! – Brad

bigdave3124 said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

If you add gelatin to the secondary and want to bottle the beer, should you add yeast at bottling time to make sure the beer carbonates?

Skyflyer said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Thanks…
I’ll write a synopsis of this for the forum. Perhaps there can be a little discussion this.
If not, at least a reference …

in January 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

BigDave – No you should not need to add yeast at bottling time. Even though the gelatin helps to precipitate yeast, there will still be plenty of yeast left in suspension to carbonate your beer. — Brad

Skyflyer said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

My experience (8 batches now!) is that I need to get the bottles to a warmer area for the bottled yeast to get going (at least for a few days or week). I’ve had low carbonation because I had the bottles downstairs where it is 60* or so.
Correct my procedure if this is not the right way to do this.
Thanks.
Bob

in January 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

Carbonation will go slower if you are doing it in a cool area – in general you should keep your beer within the recommended temperature range of the yeast for 1-2 weeks while it carbonates.

Skyflyer said,
in January 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

I am having a carbonation issue with another batch and will address that in a forum post. Someone (Useless Brewing) said that gelatin strips out too much yeast and that he doesn’t do that. He said there is a little yeast left and that it would take a long time. You have suggested that there is enough. Not sure what to do now. I tend to believe you and will probably do that. Should I have the bottles at a temp at 70* or so, or is that too high?

in January 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

As long as you keep the temperature within the fermentation range recommended for your particular yeast, you should be fine. — Brad

bigdave3124 said,
in February 16th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Here is just one more data point among many: I just started drinking a batch of Light Lager that I used gelatin to help clarify. The carbonation went just fine (without adding extra yeast) but it was slower than expected (2 weeks: still a bit flat; 3 weeks: perfect).

But WOW what clear beer! Side-by-side comparison with Heineken and you CANNOT tell which beer is which by looking. (Of course mine tastes better – ha ha!!)

in December 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am

A quick question re: gelatin; safe to assume the recommended amount of one teaspoon is for a five-gallon batch?

Thanks for all the excellent advice!!

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