Comments on: The First Wort Hop: Beer Brewing Techniques http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ Get weekly articles on home brewing, beer styles, and making beer recipes Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:04:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ben http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19789 Ben Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:13:45 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19789 Hey Brad, When entering FWH into BeerSmith, after I select that it will be a FWH, how much "time" do I enter? Do I enter 30 minutes (the length of the sprage and thus FWH) or do I put in the total time that the FWH will be in the kettle (30 minute sparge + 75 minute boil)? I just would like my IBUs to be accurate. Thanks! -Ben Hey Brad,

When entering FWH into BeerSmith, after I select that it will be a FWH, how much “time” do I enter? Do I enter 30 minutes (the length of the sprage and thus FWH) or do I put in the total time that the FWH will be in the kettle (30 minute sparge + 75 minute boil)? I just would like my IBUs to be accurate. Thanks!

-Ben

]]> By: Triple Rock & Beachwood Breweries invite homebrewers to collaborate on Laurel IPA | Batch-22 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19768 Triple Rock & Beachwood Breweries invite homebrewers to collaborate on Laurel IPA | Batch-22 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:02:08 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19768 [...] 0.8 oz. Amarillo pellets (9.6% AA) for first wort hop (FWH) * 0.55 oz. Summit pellets (18% AA) for 60 minutes * 0.75 oz. Centennial pellets (9.2% AA) for 30 [...] [...] 0.8 oz. Amarillo pellets (9.6% AA) for first wort hop (FWH) * 0.55 oz. Summit pellets (18% AA) for 60 minutes * 0.75 oz. Centennial pellets (9.2% AA) for 30 [...]

]]> By: Warren http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19699 Warren Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:25:30 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19699 I'm going to try FWH in the morning on a Amarillo Pale Ale all grain recipe that I designed using B.S.2. My plan is to FWH 2oz then 1oz @ 30min and 1oz @ 10min, dry hop with 2oz during 2nd. I love the flavor of Amarillo and am interested in different flavor/bitterness that FWH might provide. I’m going to try FWH in the morning on a Amarillo Pale Ale all grain recipe that I designed using B.S.2. My plan is to FWH 2oz then 1oz @ 30min and 1oz @ 10min, dry hop with 2oz during 2nd. I love the flavor of Amarillo and am interested in different flavor/bitterness that FWH might provide.

]]> By: My first partial - a few questions - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19644 My first partial - a few questions - Home Brew Forums Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:53:21 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19644 [...] the rest of us I'll allow that statement in the strict context of adopting the SI. As to FWH, here's some info on the subject. You can also just Google "first wort hopping" to get more results. __________________ [...] [...] the rest of us I'll allow that statement in the strict context of adopting the SI. As to FWH, here's some info on the subject. You can also just Google "first wort hopping" to get more results. __________________ [...]

]]> By: All-Grain - Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale - Page 211 - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19597 All-Grain - Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale - Page 211 - Home Brew Forums Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:32:43 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19597 [...] comes to mind. Here are some links to things I've read. http://brewery.org/library/1stwort.html http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ http://howtobrew.com/section1/chapter5-1.html http://billybrew.com/first-wort-hopping There is a [...] [...] comes to mind. Here are some links to things I've read. http://brewery.org/library/1stwort.html http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ http://howtobrew.com/section1/chapter5-1.html http://billybrew.com/first-wort-hopping There is a [...]

]]> By: Brad Smith http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19595 Brad Smith Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:39:34 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19595 Kyle, #1 - I think Charlie was referring to mash hopping and not first wort hops - in fact I'm a big fan of first wort hopping myself and use it a lot. #2 - You can use higher alpha hops - the technique will still smooth them a bit though I've tended to use lower alpha hops for most of my FWH beers. The reason is that hops are generally not the dominant flavor when you are using a FWH technique - it is more of a softening/blending technique which creates a smooth hop bitterness. If you really have a hoppy beer it might not be appropriate as you would probably want the hops to stand out more. Brad Kyle,
#1 – I think Charlie was referring to mash hopping and not first wort hops – in fact I’m a big fan of first wort hopping myself and use it a lot.
#2 – You can use higher alpha hops – the technique will still smooth them a bit though I’ve tended to use lower alpha hops for most of my FWH beers. The reason is that hops are generally not the dominant flavor when you are using a FWH technique – it is more of a softening/blending technique which creates a smooth hop bitterness. If you really have a hoppy beer it might not be appropriate as you would probably want the hops to stand out more.

Brad

]]> By: Kyle http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19591 Kyle Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:31:52 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19591 Hi Brad - I'm brewing up a new Imperial IPA recipe this weekend, and think the FWH complexity would be great for recipe. Based on that, I have two questions: #1 - On the podcast with Charlie Bamforth (mashing) it seemed like FW hopping was discouraged. Has anything changed between this post and that recording? I want to make sure my approach to makes sense. #2 - Most of my hops for this recipe are high alpha - would it be safe to use smoother bittering hops (Magnum, Warrior) in the FW, or would it be better to play it safe? I'm brewing with a combination of those two, plus Sorachi Ace, Amarillo, Cascade, Perle, and Pacific Jade Hi Brad – I’m brewing up a new Imperial IPA recipe this weekend, and think the FWH complexity would be great for recipe. Based on that, I have two questions:

#1 – On the podcast with Charlie Bamforth (mashing) it seemed like FW hopping was discouraged. Has anything changed between this post and that recording? I want to make sure my approach to makes sense.

#2 – Most of my hops for this recipe are high alpha – would it be safe to use smoother bittering hops (Magnum, Warrior) in the FW, or would it be better to play it safe? I’m brewing with a combination of those two, plus Sorachi Ace, Amarillo, Cascade, Perle, and Pacific Jade

]]> By: Home Brew: Colonial Style « Chunky Brewing… http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19423 Home Brew: Colonial Style « Chunky Brewing… Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:45:51 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19423 [...] oz Cascade hops, pellet, 5.5.%AA @ First Wort Hopped .5 oz Cascade hops,  pellet, 5.5%AA @ 60 mins .25 oz  Cascade hops, pellet, 5.5.%AA @ 20 mins .25 [...] [...] oz Cascade hops, pellet, 5.5.%AA @ First Wort Hopped .5 oz Cascade hops,  pellet, 5.5%AA @ 60 mins .25 oz  Cascade hops, pellet, 5.5.%AA @ 20 mins .25 [...]

]]> By: Requiem’s Stars | Breakpoint Brewery http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-19190 Requiem’s Stars | Breakpoint Brewery Sat, 28 May 2011 17:15:14 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-19190 [...] are great and I would probably leave them mostly the same with potentially some increase in the FWH or finishing hops just to get a little more of that resin-y hoppiness that I love (though this may [...] [...] are great and I would probably leave them mostly the same with potentially some increase in the FWH or finishing hops just to get a little more of that resin-y hoppiness that I love (though this may [...]

]]> By: Some questions about First Wort Hopping - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-18974 Some questions about First Wort Hopping - Home Brew Forums Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:31:00 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-18974 [...] brew, but I'd probably attribute it closer to that of a 30min add since its not a huge impact. Beersmith - FWH [...] [...] brew, but I'd probably attribute it closer to that of a 30min add since its not a huge impact. Beersmith – FWH [...]

]]> By: Brew Day – C4 Double IPA | GregNorton.net http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-18732 Brew Day – C4 Double IPA | GregNorton.net Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:44:38 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-18732 [...] will eventually see their way into this beer.  This will also be the first time I will be trying First Wort Hopping, a technique that was used extensively historically, but for some reason disappeared for awhile [...] [...] will eventually see their way into this beer.  This will also be the first time I will be trying First Wort Hopping, a technique that was used extensively historically, but for some reason disappeared for awhile [...]

]]> By: Exploring "no chill" brewing - Page 93 - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-17830 Exploring "no chill" brewing - Page 93 - Home Brew Forums Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:37:02 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-17830 [...] seperate addition and remove them at the 30 minute mark, but I wouldn't read that much in to it. http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ __________________ [...] [...] seperate addition and remove them at the 30 minute mark, but I wouldn't read that much in to it. http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ __________________ [...]

]]> By: Experiment idea... No boil AG beer??? - Page 3 - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-17789 Experiment idea... No boil AG beer??? - Page 3 - Home Brew Forums Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:52:17 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-17789 [...] have you thought about using first wort hopping? http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ [...] [...] have you thought about using first wort hopping? http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ [...]

]]> By: When to use first wort hop? - Home Brew Forums http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-17386 When to use first wort hop? - Home Brew Forums Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:02:55 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-17386 [...] I was recently curious about FWH too and read some good articles & studies around the net (e.g. Beersmith, Palmer & Brewery.org. Sounds like the typical scenario is take some of your finishing hops, [...] [...] I was recently curious about FWH too and read some good articles & studies around the net (e.g. Beersmith, Palmer & Brewery.org. Sounds like the typical scenario is take some of your finishing hops, [...]

]]> By: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale Clone brew day. « Bubba Juice Homebrew http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-13211 Sierra Nevada Pale Ale Clone brew day. « Bubba Juice Homebrew Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:53:11 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-13211 [...] and clean fermenting yeast should bring out the flavor and aroma of the hops.  I also used the First Wort Hop method with this beer. Employing this technique should further improve upon the hop aroma and [...] [...] and clean fermenting yeast should bring out the flavor and aroma of the hops.  I also used the First Wort Hop method with this beer. Employing this technique should further improve upon the hop aroma and [...]

]]> By: Hop addition help - Page 2 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-13077 Hop addition help - Page 2 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:30:07 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-13077 [...] Yet another reference to FWH: http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ [...] [...] Yet another reference to FWH: http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/ [...]

]]> By: Brad Smith http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Brad Smith Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:29:12 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-157 Rob, I don't know if you would get the same effect, but I suppose one could try steeping the hops with the grains before boiling and then leaving the hops in for the boil. It might make an interesting experiment. If you do try it - please let us know how it turns out. Rob,
I don’t know if you would get the same effect, but I suppose one could try steeping the hops with the grains before boiling and then leaving the hops in for the boil. It might make an interesting experiment. If you do try it – please let us know how it turns out.

]]> By: Rob http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Rob Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:22:57 +0000 http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/#comment-153 I haven't started all grain or partial mash brewing yet, I am still an extract brewer. With that, can this method be applied to extract recipes as well? I haven’t started all grain or partial mash brewing yet, I am still an extract brewer. With that, can this method be applied to extract recipes as well?

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